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Think Atheists don't proslytize? Think Again.

Seeded on Wed Mar 3, 2010 4:47 AM EST
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There is nobody as fanatic about spreading the word than atheists.

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Andrew-1162039

If they convict this guy it's going to be an affront to free speech in England. Free speech isn't about allowing just what you like to hear, it's about allowing all speech, even when it's as insensitive as that expressed by this guy. The article doesn't really go into it, but if what he did was vandalism charge him with that, but don't dictate what speech is allowed in a free society.

I may find the Westboro Baptists completely deplorable, but I'll defend their right to stand on public property displaying the most offensive signs imaginable.

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Reply#1 - Wed Mar 3, 2010 8:25 AM EST
thelopes

The word proselytize seems to be misused here.

It is more an act of protest.

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Mar 3, 2010 8:31 AM EST
dAt crAzy bOk

But he told Liverpool crown court he was just practising his own religion of "reason and rationality" in the hope of converting people to atheism.

This statement in the piece makes me wonder. I notice though that they didn't put quotes around "in the hope of converting people to atheism". I think we would need a much more direct quote from him to know whether it was proselytizing or protesting.

    #2.1 - Thu Mar 4, 2010 8:23 PM EST
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    kaviaq

    There is nobody as fanatic about spreading the word than atheists.

    Wow, that is a rather grandiose statement considering the article is about one person in one place. How does one atheist protesting religion turn into ALL atheists proselytizing??

    • 7 votes
    Reply#3 - Wed Mar 3, 2010 3:50 PM EST
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    Greg Stocks CRNA EJD

    "There is nobody as fanatic about spreading the word than atheists."

    That is the stupidest statement I have read in days....maybe months... Anyhow it's STUPID.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#5 - Thu Mar 4, 2010 8:22 AM EST
    Ninbyo

    OF course we spread the word, we have to with so much disinformation from the churches. Especially when you have churches indoctrinating children before they can even walk and talk. The only difference is the churches are a heck of a lot better organized, and have no shame or logical arguments.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#6 - Thu Mar 4, 2010 12:04 PM EST
    dAt crAzy bOk

    I don't speak for all atheists, but I don't feel as if I have any desire to convince someone my atheistic beliefs are factually correct. I do try to convince people to be a good person, whether or not you believe in god. I do try to convince people to treat others with respect and class, whether or not you believe in god. I do try to convince people that it is worth adding to the greater good of humanity, whether or not you believe in god.

    But, I always thought that religious people should attempt to do the same. It seems, however, that the "whether or not you believe in god" is where you lose them though. Doesn't matter if you're trying to help people, if you're not doing it in the name of god, you're wrong. Doesn't seem right to me. It almost seems they would rather I be a jerk with a belief in god, than an upstanding citizen without a belief in god. Backwards, somehow, IMO.

    I am speaking about SOME christians, before someone rips me for putting words into their mouths. Although, some people on the vine know they are guilty as charged.

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    Reply#7 - Thu Mar 4, 2010 8:28 PM EST
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